Opinion"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." John Steinbeck
      – Thelevellers, 2011-03-21 at 18:25:12   (10 comments)

On 2011-03-25 at 05:45:22, BorgClown wrote...
I wanted to agree.
On 2011-03-26 at 14:12:11, Thelevellers wrote...
Wanted?!
On 2011-03-28 at 07:06:44, BorgClown wrote...
I wanted to think people in USA saw themselves as the American Dream(TM) at work, but the real reason socialism never took root is the periodical FUD to keeps the ignorants scared and malleable.
On 2011-03-28 at 15:56:55, Thelevellers wrote...
Fair point, I kinda forgot about that factor. But I think there is a big chunk of the American Dream(TM) at work too, that's what is used as the excuse, while the reason they are still blindly following the current version of it is the FUD. Or something?
On 2011-04-25 at 03:08:35, DigitalBoss wrote...
Socialism has taken root in America. We are now trying to undo the mess and go back to where individual liberty is the call of the day.
On 2011-08-18 at 20:31:52, BorgClown wrote...
Would you consider the war industry socialism? It is by far the greatest burden to your economy. Recently USA sold more arms to Mexico than to Afghanistan, so it's kind of a burden to our economy as well, although some people have been making a sweet profit out of it for decades.
On 2011-09-22 at 16:53:04, DigitalBoss wrote...
@BorgClown: Another tired "Military Industrial Complex" remark. Let's see, I am pro arms, I am pro trade, and am definitely pro "sweet profit", so no. Defense is one of the true Constitutional functions of our government with which I agree.
On 2011-09-22 at 16:55:29, DigitalBoss wrote...
I would much rather be a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire", knowing that if I learn from my mistakes, work smart, work hard, invest intelligently, spend wisely, and yes, have a little luck, that I have a chance to become wealthy, than be a poor sap living in a communist rat hole knowing that I never will have a chance because I am not politically connected.
On 2011-09-22 at 20:43:56, DigitalBoss wrote...
@BorgClown: The greatest burden to our economy is uncertainty. Uncertainty in the marketplace due to impending laws and regulations. No one cares to start or expand their business now because they dont know what Obamacare is going to cost them. Or what Dodd/Frank will cost them. Lords knows Sarbanes/Oxley was bad enough. I took some business classes in my degree program. One of the first things they teach you in business school is how to do a pro forma sheet. Pro forma sheets are used as an estimate of future business, usually looking forward 5 years. These sheets are used to acquire capital to start or expand a business. No one here can build a pro forma sheet. There is no way to estimate costs going forward. Businesses here do not need a handout, they simply need to know what the rules are going to be.
On 2011-12-08 at 20:25:34, _Poiutr wrote...
America is so right wing that anybody to the left of David Duke and Glen Beck is a "socialist." But in reality, America represents what Mussolini corporatism or a thinly disguised form of fascism. And as the saying goes, fascism in America will come wrapped in the flag and Bible.