OpinionScience can answer moral questions http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html
      – Thelevellers, 2011-03-06 at 13:54:44   (15 comments)

On 2011-03-06 at 13:55:17, Thelevellers wrote...
I'm getting a lot of interesting stumbles this weekend...
On 2011-03-10 at 18:10:07, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Thelevellers: So which video did you actually intend to post here?
On 2011-03-15 at 16:40:30, Thelevellers wrote...
GAH! Sorry, yur tis: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html
On 2011-03-18 at 16:57:26, Lee J Haywood wrote...
This is somewhat along the lines of something I thought about a long time ago... There ought to be some sort of atheist bible which is (a) a treatise of the latest scientific findings on morality and (b) continually updated with the latest information. I read no end of articles providing insights into some aspect of morality of behaviour which would be great to have in such a compilation. The problem seems to be that lots of different researchers find things independently, and no one person can be trusted to compile these findings together. The other problem, ironically, is that all science is subject to revision and refinement and you'd have a danger of outdated ideas failing to be corrected.
On 2011-03-18 at 19:10:48, Thelevellers wrote...
I like the A-bible idea, but I guess it would have to be a wiki, or maybe eBook/App?! That way it can be kept up-to-date. I'm sure there are people out there that would do it too, it just needs to get out there. And that's the hard part :/ Don't suppose you're overdue a TED invite, are you?! :P Maybe one of us should try going to TAM this year, and get someone there to help ;)
On 2011-03-20 at 15:24:34, Lee J Haywood wrote...
My point was that anyone could start such a wiki, but people like you and me aren't directly involved with research so our opinions shouldn't count. It needs to be a summary of the science of morality, not just the collective opinion of those who choose to edit it. Worse, it ought to be a sort of guidebook with rules of thumb, much like you'd expect a bible to be, and that's a difficult thing to distil from pure research findings.
On 2011-03-21 at 18:29:00, Thelevellers wrote...
Ah, I see... But surely, an intelligent group of non-scientists, with access to scientific journals, could do it? Or at least start it. Hell, to get it famous, just blatantly mis-represent all the research and wait for the proper scientists to get stuck in fixing it ;) Maybe we should try Mr. Dawkins? :P
On 2011-03-21 at 18:30:14, Thelevellers wrote...
The guide book side of it in theory would surely just be a matter of noting the summary of the findings? 'This experiment suggests that being nice to people leads to a better life' - or whatever it is?
On 2011-03-21 at 23:00:59, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Yes, non-experts could start it. I don't think it'd attract experts unless it started out as a high-quality project. Although perhaps Wikipedia proves me wrong, since it does attract experts despite overwhelmingly being maintained by ordinary people.
On 2011-03-22 at 17:16:15, Thelevellers wrote...
Indeed, I read an article just today about it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12809944 So. The mission, should you choose to accept it: To find/start a community of dedicated Atheists, preferably with good knowledge of relevant science, to get it started... :/ Times like this I wish I had some drive and self-motivational skills. :/
On 2011-04-04 at 19:54:26, Lee J Haywood wrote...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/apr/03/grayling-good-book-atheism-philosophy
On 2011-04-09 at 17:31:54, Thelevellers wrote...
Oooh, good link! Interesting read. Looks like we have a start, just need a wiki to act as an easily update-able companion! I'm going to have to have a read of that book...
On 2011-05-02 at 13:40:17, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Here's another one. http://www.the-brights.net/action/activities/organized/arenas/1/project.html
On 2011-08-07 at 18:35:35, DigitalBoss wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: And how is that working out for you? I visited the site and read the plan. Don't see much progress. No pun intended.
On 2011-08-14 at 09:38:17, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@DigitalBoss: It doesn't have anything to do with me - I just thought it was interesting to see a group working on it. You're right that they haven't posted much progress, but it could be that they're working on it behind the scenes. Generally speaking, atheists aren't activists because there's (by definition) nothing to be active about. Anti-religious people, on the other hand, have an obligation to point out the flaws they see in extant religions and promote awareness of the damage that they can do.