News itemIt is a fallacy that George Bush made stem cell research illegal. The leftist media spins this issue so much that even the mildly uninformed does not know the truth. Bush made stem cell research legal in the US.
      – DigitalBoss, 2009-10-05 at 14:30:16   (16 comments)

On 2009-10-05 at 14:31:11, DigitalBoss wrote...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-08-15-stem-cells_x.htm
On 2009-10-05 at 17:07:39, Lee J Haywood wrote...
"The president's policy is working". In what sense did it 'work' to limit funding, though? It's not like he wasn't against science generally, and limiting federal funding did seem to be a way of imposing his personal beliefs on scientists. Even if he didn't outlaw the research altogether, he still limited it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_laws#United_States He even went to the trouble of explicitly vetoing bills that had been passed by both houses of Congress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_Cell_Research_Enhancement_Act
On 2009-10-05 at 19:48:55, DigitalBoss wrote...
I don't think that funding medical research is a constitutional province of our government. It should be left to the private sector.
On 2009-10-05 at 19:50:29, DigitalBoss wrote...
He made it legal. Before George Bush, it was illegal to research stem cells. He made it legal.
On 2009-10-05 at 19:52:35, DigitalBoss wrote...
George Bush did not ban stem cell research, he made it legal. He did limit government funded stem cell research to a set of established stem cells.
On 2009-10-05 at 20:08:35, BorgClown wrote...
Na na na, scientific research for the public benefit is meant to be funded by the government. The private sector sucks at planning long-term, specially when the research has a high probability of not yield a profitable result.
On 2009-10-05 at 20:09:09, BorgClown wrote...
not yielding, goddamit!
On 2009-10-06 at 12:46:24, DigitalBoss wrote...
I don't care if you yield, or not, your statement that George Bush banned stem cell research is just WRONG.
On 2009-10-06 at 19:57:30, BorgClown wrote...
OK, he didn't veto it. He just made it considerably more difficult to pursue. Happy?
On 2009-10-07 at 00:54:47, DigitalBoss wrote...
Stem cell research is much easier when it is legal.
On 2009-10-07 at 03:08:30, BorgClown wrote...
Flying by flapping your arms is also legal is all countries, please proceed at your leisure.
On 2009-10-07 at 03:33:45, BorgClown wrote...
In other words, if something is not illegal, you still need resources to do something meaningful. Bush Jr didn't have the guts to openly ban it, so he made it very difficult. In that time, stem cells were a novel research field, and the only known known source were embryos.
On 2009-10-07 at 10:01:10, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Not to mention that other countries advanced rapidly in their research, whilst the US had to make do with limited funding. Don't forget that there are those who did accept federal funding but had to do so with their hands tied.
On 2009-10-07 at 12:37:20, DigitalBoss wrote...
There is no limit on private research with private funding. In some liberal EU countries, stem cell research is still completely illegal.
On 2009-10-07 at 12:39:08, DigitalBoss wrote...
By the way, after 9 months of the one we have now, George Bush is looking better and better. I miss him. He spent WAY too much money, but that looks small now.
On 2009-10-07 at 20:19:00, BorgClown wrote...
Obama promised he'd recall the troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder if he didn't know better, or if he plainly lied.