OpinionAlcohol intoxication reveals a person's true self, merely removing mental barriers.
      – Lee J Haywood, 2009-09-27 at 18:24:49   (23 comments)

On 2009-09-28 at 04:58:51, Baslisks wrote...
I am much more apt to let my curiosity get the better of me when I am intoxicated. This girl last night was very infatuated with me... So I let curiosity go wild. Reminded me that I still love my ex/girlfriend/off and on.
On 2009-09-28 at 05:31:21, Baslisks wrote...
frustrating... she had a hell of a time but I just couldn't enjoy it. maybe I should go into porn?
On 2009-09-28 at 12:51:28, DigitalBoss wrote...
Lowers inhibition.
On 2009-09-28 at 18:56:45, Thelevellers wrote...
I think I agree, I have bever held with people using 'I was drunk' as an excuse for anything really... Especially infidelity - one of my ex's tried it, but really screwed it up by then blaming 'sunshine'! Fail... And I have also found that people that get annoyingly aggressive tend to be similar when sober, just less so...
On 2009-09-28 at 19:02:24, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
I think it's hard to generalize the effects of any drug. Each person's brain chemistry is so different...I would say that instead of revealing your true self, alcohol simplifies you, makes you into a shallow, one-sided version of yourself.
On 2009-09-28 at 19:12:05, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Scarletxstarlet: I've noticed in my own case that whilst my beliefs and morality are intact whilst drunk, leaving me as basically the same person, some of my conscious reasons for rejecting members of the opposite sex tend to seem much less significant. @Thelevellers: I'd say that so long as you've decided who's off-limits prior to getting drunk, you should be able to maintain that decision. It may be that if you're faced with a situation that you hadn't thought through whilst sober, then you might fail to apply your moral reasoning in the normal way. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/630 Someone I've seen drunk recently actually becomes ridiculously nice, which is the opposite of your aggression observation. Perhaps both of you have the right answer.
On 2009-09-28 at 19:20:35, DigitalBoss wrote...
I think Scarlet is right on this one. I have seen nice drunks, and polite drunks, and I have also seen very belligerent drunks. As far as the hunt goes, Jagermeister turns me into an animal. It makes me eat shit, howl at the moon, and chase rabbits. If I just want to be a normal sexy hunk of myself, I just drink beer and tequila. Let the games begin!
On 2009-09-28 at 19:56:00, BorgClown wrote...
I've been at parties where I just kinda hold my beer and observe my friends, specially at college. Alcohol just makes you temporarily stupid, it takes a few of points from your IQ. Even more, if you get in the mood, you can drink only soda and nevertheless gradually slip in the stupid zone, so alcohol + socialization give you the varied reactions.
On 2009-09-28 at 19:59:08, BorgClown wrote...
BTW, I partied that way a while because my third experience parting hard was a puked-on-yourself-where-am-i-ain't-drinking-again fiesta of self-embarrassment. And let me tell you that I constantly smile or laugh while extremely drunk, so it's a pity (for me) I've never been that drunk again.
On 2009-09-28 at 20:31:24, Baslisks wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: your response to the levellers is dead on what happened...
On 2009-09-28 at 21:44:08, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It might be possible to have a general rule in place that would apply even if you were drunk, but I'm not sure if it would in practice. Fear (of consequences) is probably the only basis for a rule that would probably work, however. Disgust is often easy to ignore when you're drunk.
On 2009-09-29 at 07:23:04, Baslisks wrote...
my friend is basically calling it rape... I do not believe that.
On 2009-09-29 at 21:12:54, Melchior wrote...
Bow chika wow wow :P
On 2009-09-29 at 21:37:34, Melchior wrote...
Was that inappropriate? Going back to the original question, how do you define "true self"? If your morals stop you from killing people etc... then can you only be you "true" self once you remove those barriers and get to the slaughter? It's a bigger barrier, but arguably the same sort of thing.
On 2009-09-29 at 22:57:02, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Melchior: I did struggle with the wording a bit - obviously you're only really your true self when you're not drunk, and technically become something different when intoxicated. But I think the intended meaning is fairly clear otherwise, i.e. that you have personality traits you keep hidden until alcohol causes you to betray yourself.
On 2009-09-30 at 05:03:48, Baslisks wrote...
@Melchior: not at all. Are we ever truly ourselves?
On 2009-09-30 at 08:07:25, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
I, personally, become more...friendly, shall we say. But not uncontrollably so.
On 2009-09-30 at 17:22:07, DigitalBoss wrote...
Can I buy you a drink?
On 2009-10-01 at 03:10:45, BorgClown wrote...
Damn my extensive pr0n experience, this dialog immediately popped into my head: Scarlett: "Please professor, what can I do to raise my grade? I'll lose my scholarship if I fail your class!" Professor: "Let's talk about this, there's some special work I can give you. Come to my office and have a drink." S: "Mmmh, this is delicious! Oh oh, I'm beginning to feel lightheaded and friendly, but not uncontrollably so... Wait, what are you doing?" P: "Don't fight it, I promise I won't hurt you... Oh, you delicate marble flower, you divine goddess... kekekeke..."
On 2009-10-01 at 03:12:05, BorgClown wrote...
And then I loled.
On 2009-10-04 at 12:31:14, Thelevellers wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: My point was more connected to people being in a relationship, which means (IMO) that everyone is off limits, so no issue there... For myself I find that I can become the same person (as when drunk) by being in the right mood... Often assisted by not having had enough sleep recently... For example, this week I have been running on low sleep and got a cold to boot at the end of it, I started using Charlie the Unicorn memes, and slipping up with more 'That's what she said' type comments than I usually use around people I don't know. (Melchior can verify that I can be 'drunk' while sober - he's seen me dance down the street and hug trees stone cold sober!) Alcohol does the same to me, but even more so, and helps me talk to strangers, which I am 100% rubbish at sober...
On 2009-10-04 at 17:22:29, BorgClown wrote...
Interesting. I had a classmate who were in the American Football team with me. After a game, he couldn't drink a single beer, If he did, he'd start to run and run and when exhausted, just walk to the middle of the field (fortunately no spectators left) and drop motionless for a couple of hours. Weirdest reaction ever.
On 2009-10-04 at 17:23:47, BorgClown wrote...
Sheesh, I spot my errors after hitting [send message], I wish I could correct them afterwards.