OpinionGovernment education is government indoctrination.
      – DigitalBoss, 2009-08-24 at 15:02:04   (13 comments)

On 2009-08-24 at 15:03:39, DigitalBoss wrote...
Government education is one of the ten planks of communism in the communist manifest by carl marx. By the way, so is a progressive income tax.
On 2009-08-24 at 16:32:05, Thelevellers wrote...
I think to an extent that is true, but it can be done properly, i.e. intsead of a rigid national curriculum, a general rule that says 'this should be taught'. Maybe. I should poke my ex onto this, her having just finished teacher training, but then where could I bitch about her?! ;-)
On 2009-08-24 at 18:42:56, BorgClown wrote...
Government education is usually of lower quality than private education, but it's much cheaper. As long as we have the option to public and private schools, it's the best of both world.
On 2009-08-24 at 18:43:00, BorgClown wrote...
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On 2009-08-24 at 20:01:39, DigitalBoss wrote...
But to send my children to a private school I have to pay twice: once for the public school that I will not use, and then for the private school.
On 2009-08-25 at 03:46:16, BorgClown wrote...
I've solved that by not having kids! Oh, wait...
On 2009-08-25 at 08:54:01, Thelevellers wrote...
I'm quite happy paying a little extra to help kids that don't have rich (or at least not-poor) parents get a chance at education... Admittedly, it's not a great one, and it's the parents as much as the teachers that make the difference in the amount a kid actually learns, but it's better to try than not...
On 2009-08-28 at 08:41:13, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's sad to see so many children schooled at home by their parents in the US - it hardly happens anywhere else, and is often for religious reasons. The children really are indoctrinated at home - they get the narrow view of the world that their parents have without any exposure to tried and tested ideas.
On 2009-08-28 at 12:46:12, DigitalBoss wrote...
Do you live in the US? I know many families that home school their children. They are not accurately portrayed by the leftist media. If you go by what you read in the press, you might think that they are all toothless religious zealots. That is far from my experience. Most of them just want their children to not be indoctrinated into the communism of the day.
On 2009-09-03 at 20:40:42, Austexgal wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: My niece has been home-schooled for 5 out of 9 years so far, and she has missed out on the opportunities a school environment offers to developing crucial social skills, as well as the advantages of instruction and curricula developed by professionals who have specialized in the education of young people. I believe some children benefit from a home school environment; however, I think that's the exception and not the rule. For all the faults our public schools have, American children have access to good public education resources that, with adequate parent involvement, can provide a first-class education without jeopardizing the values that parents want to impart their children.
On 2009-09-03 at 21:37:21, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Austexgal: I don't think anyone would claim that home-schooling cannot work, as it obviously the quality of any education depends on the teachers. The issue I have is that in the US parents usually insist on home-schooling as a pretext for religious indoctrination, where faith is taught as a valid system of reasoning and basic science is likely to be scorned instead of viewed rationally.
On 2009-09-04 at 03:07:55, BorgClown wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: Not everyone is a good teacher, only good teachers should consider home schooling, if only for quality of education's sake.
On 2009-09-04 at 09:26:01, Lee J Haywood wrote...
All parents would consider themselves good teachers... especially if they're insisting on home-schooling. From the parent's point of view, they're doing it for all the right reasons - from almost everyone else's perspective, it's for the wrong reasons.