OpinionThe push for government health care in the US is coming mainly from two groups: the big-government Democrats who love controlling your life, and people who want something for nothing.
      – DigitalBoss, 2009-08-20 at 15:04:35   (15 comments)

On 2009-08-20 at 15:05:13, DigitalBoss wrote...
The average responsible citizen provides for their own health care needs and wants the government to stay out of their lives.
On 2009-08-20 at 15:06:26, DigitalBoss wrote...
Looters and moochers.
On 2009-08-20 at 16:48:07, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
The push for government health care is coming from people who actually have compassion towards their fellow humans and think that insurance should be available to everyone. I personally can go to the doctor if I become ill, and have no interest in controlling anyone else's life, but I am strongly in favor of Universal Health Care.
On 2009-08-20 at 16:57:07, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It certainly isn't something for nothing - everyone has to make contributions to the system, but everyone gets as much or as little help as they need when they need it (as is the case with insurance generally). I'd rather live in a modern country which helps its citizens when unexpected/unpredictable health problems occur, not a backwards country where people perform illegal operations on each other because they cannot afford treatment for whatever reason.
On 2009-08-20 at 17:22:00, DigitalBoss wrote...
health insurance is available to everyone, all you have to do is pay for it.
On 2009-08-21 at 12:20:00, DigitalBoss wrote...
The Democrats are not concerned with the quality of your health. They are only concerned with the power that controlling everyone's health care will afford them.
On 2009-08-24 at 17:07:38, Thelevellers wrote...
I just realised a very simple point about health insurance - I would FAR rather any money I pay to health insurance of some form that I don't use to go towards helping people who need help, than towards someone's profit margin. I am quite simply averse to the idea of profit having anything to do with healthcare.
On 2009-08-27 at 01:32:43, DigitalBoss wrote...
You sir, are a dumbass. Why do you think that doctors go to 8 years of school? Why do you think they build hospitals? Why do you think they make and sell drugs? PROFIT. It makes the world go around.
On 2009-08-27 at 03:00:38, BorgClown wrote...
Health shouldn't be all about profit, it brings the kind of commercial abuse you currently have in USA.
On 2009-08-27 at 14:37:24, DigitalBoss wrote...
Profit incentive and competition are the two things that drive a free market, and make the world go around. Without them we would still be in the 7th century. Take them away and you have the old Soviet Union, shortages and mediocrity. People enter the healthcare industry because they want to help people, they also expect a higher salary, and to be able to someday run their own business for profit, to help justify the high cost and sacrifice of medical school.
On 2009-08-27 at 14:39:43, DigitalBoss wrote...
"money I pay to health insurance of some form that I don't use" goes to help pay other people's claims too, it is not just profit for the insurer.
On 2009-08-27 at 19:44:11, Thelevellers wrote...
I don;t mind DOCTORS profiting - they are helping people, it's the middleman I have a problem with... I am ambivalent about drugs companies, because while they obviously are helping, it took a maverick of the industry to force down the p[rice of AIDS medication for 3rd world countries - and it took until THIS YEAR for that to happen. That's why I dislike profit for profit's sake being involved. It's the investors disconnected from the business but expecting to make money out of it that are the major problem for me, i think - that's why a government version tickles my personal fancy.
On 2009-08-28 at 09:00:22, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@DigitalBoss: You're failing to see how much money you put into private health insurance is lost to profit, and don't accept that a different approach could be less wasteful. As Thelevellers says, it's better to pay the medical staff and equipment costs without huge administration costs. In the UK, doctors are paid by the NHS and have well-defined payscales that prevent them being paid excessively. The money that goes to the NHS is wasted on management costs, but we don't have the losses which go to those collecting the health insurance money - it goes directly to the Inland Revenue along with the rest of our taxes.
On 2009-08-28 at 13:05:28, DigitalBoss wrote...
I don't consider profit a loss. I am happy for companies to make a profit. For without the profit, we would have no companies. Duh. You must be about 20 years old. I remember, I was pretty stupid too, when I was 20.
On 2009-08-29 at 04:03:40, BorgClown wrote...
@DigitalBoss: Your recent volley of ad hominems makes me think you're rejuvenating somehow.