OpinionThere are too many people in the world. http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/7136/
      – Lee J Haywood, 2009-07-14 at 13:47:45   (16 comments)

On 2009-07-14 at 14:52:06, DigitalBoss wrote...
I agree. You are the first that shall go. Turn in your possessions. Get in line to be eliminated.
On 2009-07-14 at 16:20:58, Lee J Haywood wrote...
In theory declining birth rates and disease will help limit future growth. But the question is, are there too many people right now? The linked article seems to contain a few fallacies. One is that we don't really exhaust our resources - which isn't true as we know that the Earth replaces what we take from it at too low a rate to keep up. Another is that because people were prematurely worried about a large population in decades past (when there were far fewer in the world) then being wrong before means we must be wrong now - which is a very weak argument. I have to agree that things like food and water are theoretically sustainable, but the rate at which we burn up non-renewable resources and dump them in landfill is insane. And the amount of pollution and environmental damage is on a breathtaking scale now - I think people fail to realise the increase in numbers in their own lifetimes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_history.svg
On 2009-07-14 at 16:30:56, DigitalBoss wrote...
We can always go back into the landfills and scavenge for aluminium, plastic, steel, and such. Look at them like storage pots. We have huge machines that process the landfills automatically.
On 2009-07-14 at 17:54:08, Lee J Haywood wrote...
That's kind of going against entropy in a big way. Although in a sense we concentrate useful materials in landfills, at the same time they're very difficult to mine in an economic and sustainable manner. The main hope for the future is that we shift to truly green energy. If and when that happens, it won't matter how difficult something is or how much energy it takes as we'll be able to use electricity at almost no cost to the environment. (Even if we make the planet warmer through waste heat, or similar, hopefully we will be able to use our clean energy to deal with the problem).
On 2009-07-14 at 18:00:51, Baslisks wrote...
MINE THE LANDFILLS! That actually sounds really awesome.
On 2009-07-14 at 19:52:49, DigitalBoss wrote...
In the future, landfills will be constructed in layers determined by computer programs that will make the finished landfill into a type of electrical battery. Once the landfill is full, you connect some wires to it and BAM! Instant power source.
On 2009-07-14 at 19:55:02, DigitalBoss wrote...
I am working on a way to convert my septic tank into a power source. After all, it is full of shit. Shit can be a beautiful source of energy. Ask any Democrat, they are full of it.
On 2009-07-14 at 21:02:18, Baslisks wrote...
Anaerobic bacteria that produce methane that you can convert then the gas into energy? or are you going to turn it into a cell battery?
On 2009-07-15 at 07:41:02, BorgClown wrote...
I'd go for the methane collection, although septic tanks are usually complemented with some kind of antibacterial, which means less stink but less methane too.
On 2009-07-15 at 16:41:18, Baslisks wrote...
Meh, whats the use of that? YOu could probably make a nice profit if you eat the right kinds of foods.
On 2009-07-15 at 16:55:27, DigitalBoss wrote...
Antibacterial would kill a septic tank. It depends on the bacteria to digest the solids to reduce mass. Yes, in the process, gasses are created; just like inside your bowels.
On 2009-07-16 at 03:16:23, BorgClown wrote...
Right, I was confusing it with a latrine. Thanks Wikipedia!
On 2009-07-16 at 05:17:18, Baslisks wrote...
coudl you use the resultant as chaff or perhaps fodder? I can't remember if those are the words I want.... Fluffy kind of protection/fertilizer?
On 2009-07-23 at 10:03:58, Thelevellers wrote...
I just have to say that I gave up reading that article when he said we could expand cities in the UK. He's missing the point for me. Yes, you COULD make the UK one huge city, but I would leave long before for a country that has some damn COUNTRY left... I'm a couintry boy, brought up on a hippy small holding, and I usually hate cities, I get fed up with not enough greenery around, and hills to climb, mountaisn to scale or bike down, etc. Less people, more wilderness! :D And now I have 2 mins left on the library computer... DOH!
On 2009-07-23 at 13:28:01, Lee J Haywood wrote...
There's a lot of land that doesn't have people on it, but there's hardly anywhere that hasn't been affected by people in some way or other. Any land that is usable probably has at least sheep living on it.
On 2009-07-24 at 01:22:58, BorgClown wrote...
Let's make free TV dinners out of the weak newborns. The strongest survive, the population stabilizes and we get tender, healthy food. Everybody wins! Except the weak newborns, I suppose.