OpinionIf there was a worldwide zombie attack, living on an island would not save you
      – BorgClown, 2009-06-05 at 05:27:47   (30 comments)

On 2009-06-05 at 05:30:56, BorgClown wrote...
My logic is that even if the infection transmits only by biting, the suckers could walk the ocean floor, so whatever is left from them from their oceanic trip would eventually climb up the island like a big mountain.
On 2009-06-05 at 07:48:59, Lee J Haywood wrote...
My logic is that the zombies need constant sustenance to continue moving and wouldn't be able to cross such a large distance, underwater or otherwise, never mind navigate without a strong scent to follow. (Hmm, maybe they could eat sea creatures?) Also, it's likely to be much easier to defend some islands more than others - especially those which are basically forts.
On 2009-06-06 at 01:45:25, BorgClown wrote...
What would happen if they don't get enough sustenance? They're already dead. Maybe their main worry is not disintegrating too fast. And food won't help them last longer.
On 2009-06-06 at 01:46:05, BorgClown wrote...
*And foodbraaaains won't help them last longer.
On 2009-06-08 at 15:25:48, DigitalBoss wrote...
Why can't we have a "Don't give a fuck button?"
On 2009-06-08 at 17:17:26, Baslisks wrote...
@DigitalBoss: because we have discretion to choose what to read and not read. You could say Freedom to do so. You oh so like freedom don't you?
On 2009-06-08 at 17:21:35, Baslisks wrote...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSPG9QQg4C0 Was looking for this. They would be eatin by fishes.
On 2009-06-08 at 17:35:12, DigitalBoss wrote...
@Baslicks: I would fight and die for your freedom to discuss such trivial bullshit, and for my right to bitch about it.
On 2009-06-08 at 17:36:12, DigitalBoss wrote...
But I would still like a "Don't Give a Fuck" button.
On 2009-06-09 at 01:23:56, BorgClown wrote...
@DigitalBoss: I'm starting to understand you DB. I'd commit to add a "Don't give a fuck" or equivalent choice, but I don't know if that would infringe my freedoms, ha ha. OK, I should add it anyway, many of my topics are unreal, such button would make the pragmatics participate.
On 2009-06-09 at 01:27:37, BorgClown wrote...
@Baslisks: Zombie vs shark. Wow. The zombie guy has an amazing breath control, almost no bubbles.
On 2009-08-01 at 15:59:03, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
I think the ocean would dissolve them before they could cross the ocean floor. Well...wait. How far out is this hypothetical island?
On 2009-08-02 at 02:22:26, BorgClown wrote...
Place the island wherever you like, if you think it gives you an advantage. Somewhere I read that zombies, going by canon, have brains with a negligible (but not zero) need for oxygen, so they could cross a lake easily, but a long deep-sea walk would drown them. I don't know if resurfacing would let them resume the walk.
On 2009-08-02 at 09:58:41, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Don't zombies resist decay? Or how long do they last? Presumably they need to keep eating to keep going, or do they go into hibernation until they smell living people?
On 2009-08-02 at 23:23:20, BorgClown wrote...
IIRC, they decay normally. The brain/flesh eating is not for survival, but for some weird justification like "easing the paind of being dead", or a plain psychological need. Unless you have the very bad luck of having mummies nearby, all zombies would decay in a few decades.
On 2009-08-03 at 10:09:22, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I don't think there's any canon for zombies - they're a bit vague, much like vampires. I always thought the decay was due to the time it takes for the infection to take hold after death, and then the decay ceased... but you can make up anything you want when writing a story.
On 2009-08-04 at 01:59:38, BorgClown wrote...
I read quite a bit about zombies on Wikipedia before answering. You're right, there is no canon if you take the concept as a whole.
On 2009-08-04 at 01:59:57, BorgClown wrote...
So my zombies also fly!
On 2009-08-17 at 03:59:39, BorgClown wrote...
I've just finished Max Brook's "Zombie Survival Guide": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombie_Survival_Guide It brings coherence into zombie modern lore, and albeit being a work of fantasy/humor, it's a very entertaining read. It goes from basic defense to apocalypse and earth repopulation. According to his version, the undead are caused by a virus called Solanum. It must infect a live human for the disease to spread, so there's no reanimation of already dead folks. Solanum zombies have a reduced decay rate, although they usually rot away in five years. A sea zombie lacks the coordination to swim, and the slow decay rate prevents gases from turning it into a buoy. Being incapable of reasoning or planning, sea zombies would wander aimlessly the ocean floor until they dissolve. Only by chance it would climb the island's coast the right way and pose a threat.
On 2009-08-18 at 12:28:36, Lee J Haywood wrote...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8206280.stm
On 2009-08-18 at 13:43:43, Thelevellers wrote...
Cool. I wish I'd thought to research the Zombie apocolypse in a serious manner - how cool would that paper be to have to your name?! :D
On 2009-08-19 at 03:59:31, BorgClown wrote...
"My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days." Totally agreed, a classic zombie mob can't possibly take a city in three days, they are easy to physically deter if their numbers are not overwhelming. And they shamble slowly, even a toddler would run circles around one.
On 2009-08-19 at 04:01:15, BorgClown wrote...
Around one zombie, I mean. Even classic zombies could trap you if they slowly corner you from several directions.
On 2009-08-20 at 09:20:03, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Zombies don't necessarily have to move slowly, although you wouldn't expect them to have any intelligence in their attack.
On 2009-08-21 at 08:11:26, BorgClown wrote...
Of course they do. Also, they fly slowly.
On 2009-08-22 at 08:36:51, BorgClown wrote...
I wonder why have I recently met so much zombie folklore. Is a new zombie movie being hyped? http://www.cracked.com/funny-38-zombies/
On 2009-08-22 at 10:12:18, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Supposedly people find zombies to be fascinating - something to do with their own mortality.
On 2009-08-24 at 07:21:26, BorgClown wrote...
Did you know that Mexico (and to an extent, Latin America) has had its own "Day of the Dead" celebration for millennia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead We even eat "pan de muerto" (bread of dead). It's a religious celebration, although I enjoy the Death folklore.
On 2009-08-24 at 09:01:49, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@BorgClown: The Day of the Dead is referenced in popular (American) culture, so most people have probably heard of it in passing. What are the negative aspects of the holiday's activities?
On 2009-08-24 at 18:21:56, BorgClown wrote...
No negative aspects, really. People go visit the graves of their ancestors, clean them, put a candle and maybe some food for the immaterial dead to enjoy. There are lots of skull and skeleton shaped candies, and pan de muerto with chocolate. It's just a big kid's party, not even Death gets respect here. Oh, also we exchange "Calaveritas" (little skulls), which must be something similar to limericks but allusive to death. For example: When Death claimed Soapboxxer / Lee spawned Discussionator / he worked so hard for his kid / he forgot to take his pills / Death thought it was great / to bury all three in the same crate