News itemGoogle wave - awesome?
      – Thelevellers, 2009-06-02 at 14:32:05   (30 comments)

On 2009-06-02 at 14:33:07, Thelevellers wrote...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ I actually was interested for the first hour - they've thought it through well :) Looks like I'll be tryin' it once it's out :)
On 2009-06-03 at 03:34:47, BorgClown wrote...
Awesome indeed. It combines several forms of communication, and it's in near real time. It's hard to keep in mind that it's still only a browser page. I'd love to see the uses of an internal wave server at work.
On 2009-06-03 at 03:40:15, BorgClown wrote...
By 'at work' I mean 'at the office'. The servers surely will need to be beefy, but the collaboration would be awesome. One of the wonderful things of IT in banks is that every work email is copied to at least three people, and usually more. Half of them don't care about the huge load of informative emails, so they just get ignored, being kept just as a kind of log. A wave would be an awesome replacement, specially with the very intuitive playback feature.
On 2009-06-03 at 03:43:50, BorgClown wrote...
Of course, as soon as the protocol gets liberated, Microsoft will put a lame clone with proprietary "features". It will be called Microsoft Sinuses or something equally ludicrous.
On 2009-06-03 at 08:26:32, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Microsoft already have a product which is selling rapidly, and is very much designed for businesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SharePoint
On 2009-11-03 at 19:31:15, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Thelevellers: Oh, I forgot about this topic. I've had my Wave account for weeks now... but no-one I know is on there and they aren't giving me invites at the moment. So it's very much useless. OTOH, the question has to be what use is it? I mean, you wouldn't know you had a new Wave without seeing it in an e-mail or RSS feed (i.e. existing technology) or being logged into Wave continually. And it's only useful as a replacement for e-mail if a lot of people switch to it, which will limit its spread.
On 2009-11-03 at 20:48:14, BorgClown wrote...
Please invite us if you get invitations, I want to try it while it's being developed. And about the use of it, I think Google looks forward to mobile devices. Most modern smartphones already do what wave does, although fragmented in several apps (email, MSN, Yahoo, GTalk, Viigo, etc)
On 2009-11-04 at 00:24:40, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@BorgClown: Ah, that's true - I don't have a smartphone, unfortunately. So I need to work out how to use an app to start posting status updates, as I cannot afford to pay 10p a text on pay-as-you-go to do it. Google Wave does seem very feature-poor though. Although the demo had some nifty things, most of them you wouldn't use much. There are just a couple of panes - one with contacts another with the currently-open wave. It seems very basic when you actually go into it, although perhaps good for IM-like collaboration.
On 2009-11-04 at 03:45:19, BorgClown wrote...
Blackberries already mix SMS, MMS, email and instant messaging in the same message listing, it lacks further integration but it's quite useful as it is. Wave is supposed to be the pimp of messaging, and seeing how awesome Google Maps is on a BB, it's likely Wave would be the preferred way of communication if your mobile device supports it.
On 2009-11-05 at 21:33:47, Thelevellers wrote...
YAY! My mate just invited me :) I have more than two panels?! I have 4 - navigation, contacts, search and open wave... Seems good to me.. but then I have two contacts and literally just signed in, so I reserve the right to change my mind ;)
On 2009-11-06 at 20:31:19, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@Thelevellers: I was talking about relevant panels, the others aren't very interesting. To be fair, Gmail also only shows one conversation at a time. Saint Ethan has shown up in my contacts list now, so I have 3 people I don't really know at all in there.
On 2009-11-08 at 10:04:51, Lee J Haywood wrote...
http://completewaveguide.com/
On 2009-11-08 at 10:07:37, Lee J Haywood wrote...
"If you don't know anyone already using Wave who can nominate you, you're still not entirely out of luck. You can request an invitation directly from Google at their aptly-named Request for invitation to Google Wave signup page. Slowly but surely the people who express interest in trying Wave are getting invited in. But don't wait. Interest in Wave grows by the day, so the sooner you request an invitation, the better." https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/
On 2009-11-08 at 22:34:02, BorgClown wrote...
Meh, I just nominated myself for wave wannabe. Just don't have a warm fuzzy feeling after it, it had a beggy "Leave a message to the wave team" text box.
On 2009-11-08 at 22:34:18, BorgClown wrote...
Oooh, please, let me in Wave team!
On 2009-11-22 at 03:40:03, BorgClown wrote...
Invite plz! http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=5010
On 2009-11-23 at 22:18:03, Thelevellers wrote...
Love the cartoon, it's very accurate right now... I like the idea ,but have no-one to talk to, and so forget to check it at all... :S Needs integration to Pidgin for new message updates like with googletalk, or it's onwn chat client ofcourse... Indee,d even better, chat client details so i can add it to pidgin. Not sure that would work though...
On 2009-11-23 at 22:24:18, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I'd completely forgotten about it - as you say, it's somewhat useless checking it when no-one else is on there. I'd rather have an RSS feed than anything else. I do have one or two invites to give now though... it's tough to think who to give them to, without wasting them on people who already have access or don't care.
On 2009-11-24 at 03:13:24, BorgClown wrote...
Wow, thanks for the invite. Now that I'm in, I feel kinda out. Hello?
On 2009-11-24 at 03:19:53, BorgClown wrote...
It seems like it's got some interesting thingamajigs to experiment with.
On 2009-11-24 at 04:44:57, BorgClown wrote...
Yay, I've reached the "is anybody here" plateau rather quickly.
On 2009-11-24 at 11:47:40, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's tough to know why you'd use it instead of email - or when - even if you did have people to communicate with on there.
On 2009-11-25 at 03:18:11, BorgClown wrote...
What if you had there your DNr, twitter and FaceBook messages all in one place? Wave's killer feature is replying to heterogeneous media using the same interface.
On 2009-11-26 at 14:24:43, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@BorgClown: But I already check for updates in my RSS feeds, and squeezing RSS feeds into something like Wave never works. There are lots of 'online OSes' that let you subscribe to feeds, but you only get to see one or two comfortably - they're not a replacement for Google Reader and never will be. Maybe if you used Wave at work and was always logged into it, always collaborating, then it'd make sense. I actually think its biggest strength is simply having multiple people party to a single conversation, which is a true blend between IM and e-mail.
On 2009-11-27 at 01:35:55, BorgClown wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: We don't know yet how much different the GUI will be when it gets mainstream. I agree that it is very limited today, but it is all about personal liking. I find Google Reader annoying, I'm much happier using a good standalone RSS reader.
On 2009-11-27 at 10:40:14, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's very difficult to switch to another program from the one you're used to. My main issue with Google Reader is that it doesn't fetch the feeds when I access them, nor when I refresh them - it mirrors them onto the Google servers when it feels like it. This is useless for real-time data like the Discussionator logs, say. There are plenty of minor annoyances, but that's true of any software. My main gripe with Wave is the way the wave itself is way over on the right-hand side - I'd rather have the little-used navigation panel on the right instead of in the middle, and put the wave in centre stage where it belongs. (Or even have navigation on the left and contacts on the right).
On 2009-11-28 at 03:44:48, BorgClown wrote...
I'd personally hate to have the waves on the center, why do the most important thing has to be on the center? It's usability taken to the extreme, ADD users. When several GUI elements are almost as important, and most screens are wider than last century, a left-to-right arrangement is more sensible.
On 2009-11-28 at 11:13:59, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@BorgClown: Well it should at least be configurable - and perhaps it will be. I suppose being forced to turn your head is a good thing in a way, but I find it annoying to read near the edges.
On 2009-11-28 at 17:34:35, BorgClown wrote...
Be thankful it isn't top-down. That's horrible for lists.
On 2009-11-29 at 16:32:41, Thelevellers wrote...
I think if done right the addition of RSS to Wave would be great. And it could easily take over from email for me if all my contacts used it. All I want at the moment is a notification of new waves in pidgin so I don't have to logon to find out. Personally I find google reader does everything I want it to at the moment, but I am new to the world of RSS, so I might change my mind at a later date. I certainly haven't found any other reader that does everything google does, so I don't see it makes much difference if there was something that I didn't like about it!