PollIf I were in doubt, I would experiment with same-gender sex in order to define my sexuality
      – BorgClown, 2009-03-08 at 09:45:07   (24 comments)

On 2009-03-08 at 09:59:07, BorgClown wrote...
Well, maybe not that enthusiastically, but I did experiment in my early twenties. My last girlfriend cheated me with my best friend while I attended college in another city (I saw her all weekends). I was so disappointed with women in general that I didn't feel like getting a new girlfriend for about 4 years! I was too apathetic about women that I seriously questioned my sexual orientation, and having a few proposals, I deemed it necessary to experiment. Soon I understood that I was just a wee bit heart-broken but fully heterosexual guy. Interestingly, the put-down wasn't the view or touch of another penis (that was a kinda novelty) but the foreplay kissing. Guy kisses are gross, I don't know how girls put up with our sandpaper-like chins.
On 2009-03-08 at 10:06:14, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Erm, well I cannot imagine ever being in doubt in the first place - I've always seen it as an either/or state, although there are plenty of girls who are unsure. I know women who also think it's gross when they try to imagine same-sex stuff, so it clearly does vary a lot from one individual to another.
On 2009-03-08 at 10:15:26, BorgClown wrote...
If anyone is in doubt after his twenties, that has to be a really indecisive person. The late teens and twenties give you lots of opportunities for same-gender sex. It is even more with males, because we have a strong urge to sex someone, and male partners are more readily and non-commitally available than female ones. But I guess I would have remained sure about my heterosexuality if I didn't let my girlfriend's cheating to affect me so much.
On 2009-03-08 at 10:18:51, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I don't know how you'd even find another male for such an activity, given the combination of the risk of being rejected for the suggestion and that most men actively try to avoid appearing gay in order to avoid alienating themselves from women.
On 2009-03-08 at 10:29:39, BorgClown wrote...
I suspect it has to do with your appeal to homosexuals. I played football (Handegg) and was fairly athletic and obviously young. I received about one proposal a month, usually from different guys. Mostly strangers I knew while using the public transport or going to the gym. Alas!, just 13 years later I receive zero proposals. I guess life has treated me very badly, or maybe younger men are more open to homosexual proposals than older men.
On 2009-03-08 at 12:29:57, Lee J Haywood wrote...
That's surprising, as I've only known of 3 gays to date - a friend's brother and 2 others at work. I'd expect making such a proposal to a straight guy would be likely to result in violence (or the threat of it) even though there's more acceptance overall.
On 2009-03-08 at 19:18:22, Baslisks wrote...
Meh, all depends where you are. If you are a musician, it would be really easy to find some homosexual partners. Its way more open then most on the street encounters. Especially if you are in a group singing about accepting gays and such.
On 2009-03-08 at 22:20:51, BorgClown wrote...
Homosexuality is also more common in sports. WTF with the common showers? It's almost encouraged.
On 2009-03-08 at 22:23:38, BorgClown wrote...
There's a bar joke here that says: Last decade being gay was a crime, now it's acceptable, and the next decade it will be mandatory. Guaranteed to give interesting reactions when told to the right person, LOL.
On 2009-03-08 at 23:24:45, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I'd imagine that straight people are more likely to avoid being fully naked in a communal shower, so there's a certain amount of self-selection going on.
On 2009-03-09 at 01:42:40, BorgClown wrote...
To be fair, avoiding the communal shower has few to do with sexual orientation, but lots to do with shyness. It would be cool if the showers were private, though.
On 2009-03-09 at 01:43:16, BorgClown wrote...
Speaking of "confusion": http://moronail.net/?pic=968
On 2009-03-09 at 02:37:45, Baslisks wrote...
Frat boys.... Act gay as can be but call you a fag every second of the day.
On 2009-03-09 at 22:36:22, Thelevellers wrote...
I have been having a 'women are meh' period myself, only brought on by being single and not knowing any cool girls (except my ex, which obviously doesn't count). I have thought quite hard about whether I could go gay, or bi, as men are far better people than women! (lol) I have however concluded that men just don't turn me on, which is kinda dissappointing in a way, as it would make my life (short term) easier!
On 2009-03-10 at 02:06:43, Saywhatagain wrote...
@Lee J - The metro area I live in has a heavy gay population; I can't even imagine only knowing 3 gays. One business I was in a partnership with, half were gay, with one or two others quite possibly Bi- I heard enough stories from them to not even want to consider that life style - always seemed so much more complicated than straight relationships, - if that's possible.
On 2009-03-10 at 03:19:00, BorgClown wrote...
My social and work circles would put pressure if someone was openly gay or bi. Since none of my peers are openly gay or bi, I have a couple of candidates whom I believe are living in the closet. Today I wouldn't harass someone for not being straight, although I wasn't that liberal a couple of years ago. That's one of the things that stayed with me after the demise of SB. Knowing open-minded people and awesome gay dudes like Wonko sure left a footprint.
On 2009-03-10 at 11:03:02, Lee J Haywood wrote...
If they're as commonplace in the US as Saywhatagain suggests, the silver lining is that it's a kick in the face to all the religious types who are trying to promote their own brand of normality.
On 2009-03-10 at 19:27:41, Baslisks wrote...
The college I go to has a huge gay population. I sometimes forget this and I do see some fairly attractive girls together... Still surprises me when I see them kiss.
On 2009-03-11 at 02:29:39, BorgClown wrote...
Oh man, I guess it doubly sucks when beautiful girls won't make out with you, but only between themselves.
On 2009-03-11 at 05:25:31, Baslisks wrote...
no its quite awesome. I have a girlfriend so I can't touch anyways so I can at least enjoy the show.
On 2009-03-11 at 15:12:04, Lee J Haywood wrote...
That's a good point - at universities there are very active LBG groups which do suggest a higher prevalence. Even then, I wasn't aware of any individuals I met that were involved in such groups. Then again, my 'gaydar' has always been particularly poor.
On 2009-03-11 at 16:38:18, Saywhatagain wrote...
As mentioned previously, I live in a metro area that has a large gay population - that is not necessarily true for the rest of the nation that I am aware of. Originally from a small town, the conservative prevalence is so overwhelming that anyone with a forward thought in their mind is driven away. Not gay, but still considered somewhat radical only because of my acceptance of people of minority races, sexual persuasion, affiliations, etc.;people tend to gravitate to larger metro areas just to blend in, hence the abundance of such people in areas such as mine. What really drives me insane is the people of minority thought that demand tolerance for their perspective - but still refuse to give the same respect for others of different persuasion. i.e. the gay jew that hates blacks, the ass- backward religious types that refuse rights to women,etc. BURN the heretics I say - of course, there would probably be very few people left. Solve the over population issue however.
On 2009-03-11 at 20:54:22, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Sure, doing the 'right thing' for the largest group of people not just your own in-group is the ideal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity
On 2009-03-13 at 18:10:41, BorgClown wrote...
@Saywhatagain: Wait, can someone be Jew and gay? The Bible never said "go forth and buttsexs each other"