SurveyIf you had to gruesomely kill someone (i.e., ground alive) in self defense, you wouldn't acquire one of those self-inflicted guilt traumas
      – BorgClown, 2009-02-25 at 04:36:36   (11 comments)

On 2009-02-25 at 04:39:54, BorgClown wrote...
Taken out of context, yes, I wouldn't acquire a guilt trauma. Self defense makes it guilt-free for me, specially because I know I would use reasonable force, and gruesome murder as the very last resort. Boy, I'm so macho!
On 2009-02-25 at 14:56:55, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I'm not sure that this makes sense - if you're acting in self defence you're either going to try to disable someone or do something so violent that they're killed outright. To grind someone alive suggests having specialist equipment and having them at your mercy anyway. You could either partially grind them, and then get away and send help, or grind them so quickly that you'd feel little guilt about any potential suffering. Of course, it could be that you'd know someone would come after you and so deliberately let them die slowly in order to be completely safe in the future. If you feared them that much, guilt probably wouldn't be an issue.
On 2009-02-25 at 19:04:49, Thelevellers wrote...
There's a lot of ifs to this question... If there was a gun to my head, I might not do it at all. If there's not, then they would have to be a pretty shitty person for me to do it, and would therefore be a lot less likely to get the guilt complex. I really don;t know how I would react in such a situation as I haven't been in anything like it before, and I hope I wont in the future!!
On 2009-02-25 at 20:25:45, Baslisks wrote...
Well if you are doing it in a gangster style in display of power... I can do that legally with people. if they don't handle me face to face I go through the proper channels and those aren't fun to work with but I know the politicians running them so they make it easy for me. currently roasting a frat boy for thinking hes cool for banging on my door through out the night. Wouldn't talk to me. He now is dealing with the dorm judiciary committee.
On 2009-02-26 at 04:50:32, BorgClown wrote...
The grinding up was an example. I imagines a slow industrial meat grinder, and a situation where you punch your assailant in the nose and he blindly stumbles and fall on the grinder, feet first. Let's say a 30-60 second agony tops.
On 2009-02-26 at 05:26:52, BorgClown wrote...
@Baslisks: You should be a lawyer, you seem to enjoy bashing people with lawyer power.
On 2009-02-26 at 07:03:36, Baslisks wrote...
I study law on the side. I am a subtle politician here. Not very popular when I decide to crack some heads though. Example, I have things on my door. Sings people have left me, stupid pictures, and you just lost the game. It gets messed up from time to time but keep itself pretty clean. One day I caught a guy tearing shit off my, I yell hey at him and he stops and walks away. I go to talk to the bastard and he ignores me. I would of left it at a talk if he would of complied. He didn't. So I got the ra to give him a 30 minute speech and he got written up for vandalism on his permanent record. 2 secs could of saved him all that shit. Now this guy has two strikes with campus housing and contracts are being renewed. He might lose his. Respect or fear? Whatever works.
On 2009-02-26 at 21:16:57, Thelevellers wrote...
Harsh, but I like your attitude Basilisks! :) I think that if it was a life/death situation as you describe it Borg, I'd get over it... I would have a bit of an issue, but in the end it's their fault for starting a fight in a meat factory! ;) Do they not read health and safety notices?! Honestly...
On 2009-02-26 at 23:38:43, Baslisks wrote...
has anyone here watched boondock saints?
On 2009-02-27 at 04:38:56, Thelevellers wrote...
Hell yeah... And read the reviews that miss the point! It's a great film - although the stories I hear about it actually being intended to be taken seriously diminish that somewhat...
On 2009-02-28 at 03:33:14, BorgClown wrote...
There goes one more movie to my should-watch list.