SurveyI have a short and/or long term plan for the apocalypse.
      – Thelevellers, 2009-01-29 at 14:04:17   (27 comments)

On 2009-01-29 at 14:15:29, Thelevellers wrote...
Currently I have rather over thought long term (i.e. I need the apocalypse to wait a number of years so I have implemented most of it already) plan... Buy a big piece of land that is well above sea level, I'm thinking north-west Devon, Dartmoor, Wales or Scotland ATM. Ideally including woodland, partly cause woods are cool, but also for practical reasons. This land is then surrounded by a moat and earth wall, with a big fence/brick wall on top.Armed sentries can be added if the rabid mob shows up. Within this space you are then free to populate with useful people and buildings and farm land. I would set-up my own mini internet, using content from the real thing to get it started. I think there may be more to it, but that'll do for now :)
On 2009-01-29 at 17:30:16, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Erm, I have some extra tins of baked beans in the cupboard... does that count?
On 2009-01-30 at 02:52:16, BorgClown wrote...
Boy, I was thinking doomsday, like a nuclear war. I already have my first choices for refuge: a) The underground subway tunnels b) Mountains (glad to have a few here) c) Securing the lower floor of a tall and resistant building Refuge first, pillaging second, organization and locating our relatives third.
On 2009-01-30 at 12:29:01, Thelevellers wrote...
Yeah, I was hoping for alternative apocalypse options... There's so many you need a few plans to be sure of your safety!! There's also the zombie apocalypse option, which I have discussed in surprisingly great detail with my ex, as she has zombie-phobia!! On one or two occasions the only way to get her to stop freaking herself out about it was to sort out her best options should it all happen and show her how a bit of common sense will see you through everything but the rage virus..!
On 2009-01-31 at 10:04:22, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I generally only think about likely scenarios such as flooding - although I live near the top of a rise/hill, so don't worry about that much. The only apocalyptic scenario that is likely is the collapse of modern civilisation, which is increasingly looking like a short-term prospect. We only need to have our oil cut off for a couple of weeks, or have everyone out of work, and the rioting would soon start.
On 2009-01-31 at 11:50:44, Thelevellers wrote...
yeah, this is why I'm a bit peeved atm - my plan wont be in force short term! Still, at least I wouldn't have to BUY the land once civilisation has collapsed! I'd just need a loyal and trustworthy group with me to help defend the borders! I think it was my (crazy hippy) mum talking about the upcoming end of civilisation as we know it that got me thinking about what I would do...
On 2009-02-01 at 02:05:41, BorgClown wrote...
Oh boy, we need weapons. Good ol' clubs and sharpies for everyday use, bows and crossbows for reach. And guns and rifles using valuable bullets for the last option. I should stock a few awesome clubs and sharpies, and choose the first gun store for association (or pillaging) for when doomsday comes.
On 2009-02-01 at 06:38:17, Baslisks wrote...
@BorgClown: CROSSBOWS!
On 2009-02-01 at 12:56:02, Thelevellers wrote...
Crossbows are a definite must, who needs silencers when you have no explosives?! As I have some experience with blacksmithing, and know where to find a blacksmith or two, I'm opting for a nice pointy sword as opposed to a club! =P
On 2009-02-02 at 20:12:16, Baslisks wrote...
I feel that a long range, cheap ammo, and relatively easy use would let the crossbow easily eclipse any sword user in the type of environment we are describing.
On 2009-02-03 at 00:27:20, BorgClown wrote...
Small bow arrows can be avoided (as many martial artists like to demonstrate), but a long bow or crossbow arrow is too fast. A clever swordsman would just sneak and surprise you short-range.
On 2009-02-03 at 02:39:56, Baslisks wrote...
@BorgClown: and I can smack your sword with a mace and break it.
On 2009-02-03 at 19:51:42, Thelevellers wrote...
I meant have a sword instead of a club for close combat... Obviously the cross bow is there to keep close combat to a minimum! You COULD smack a sword with a mace, but I think you'll find that a decent swordsman would give you little opportunity to do so, and with the greater speed from a less clumsy weapon, kick your arse ;)
On 2009-02-03 at 21:02:58, Baslisks wrote...
Its so much easier to keep a regiment of mace men then a handful of swords men. The time and practice to "master" a mace is a fraction of the time to master a sword. Sure you killed one of my guys but I killed the equivalent of 5 guys right there.
On 2009-02-04 at 08:47:18, Lee J Haywood wrote...
You can protect against swords and crossbows by simply having a fort, with some massive logs for walls. Unless someone gets hold of a cannon, of course...
On 2009-02-04 at 19:28:11, Thelevellers wrote...
Lol, this is why I would operate primarily defensively, hiding behind my moat and walls... Maybe I'll train a few pikemen to help out the swordsmen then Basilisks ;)
On 2009-02-04 at 19:42:09, Baslisks wrote...
@Thelevellers: there that works.
On 2009-02-05 at 04:33:51, BorgClown wrote...
It would be a fun and demanding challenge to keep such post-holocaust community safe.
On 2009-02-05 at 19:07:19, Thelevellers wrote...
@BorgClown: Yeah, I sometimes find myself wishing it would happen, to see how I'd cope for real... :)
On 2009-02-06 at 04:10:28, BorgClown wrote...
Boy, it would feel like playing Wolfenstein 3D with your last life.
On 2009-02-06 at 19:08:47, Thelevellers wrote...
Hell yeah! You always magically seem to make that last life go on for so much longer, don't you? Unless you get unlucky and die within about 20 seconds of course..!
On 2009-07-18 at 21:44:11, BorgClown wrote...
I've just dreamed about a worldwide flood, combined with an incipient zombie attack. The flood of course wouldn't not cover everything, it was just several months of constant rain and a 100-200 meters sea level rise. The zombies started to spread on damp caves and basements, first they were little animals, and slowly infected people. So there I was, trying to save my family (and a group of neighbours =) without a solid plan. It was not my city, it was a little town in some mountainous and tree-covered area. There were a couple of castles and several mountains high enough to be safe from the flood. I thibk that was a sure-death scenario. The flood would kill us if we didn't relocate. The castles and caves were dangerous because of the zombie critters and future landslides, and living in the open would just buy time until the zombies spread there. And being a rural town, there was no weapon shop to loot, and no high or fortified buildings besides the castles. I must have a death wish.
On 2009-07-19 at 16:10:05, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Even if you dealt with the zombies, you'd quickly run out of food what with civilisation having collapsed and everywhere being permanently flooded. Tinned food would last a while, and then you'd be picking nuts and berries. (:
On 2009-07-23 at 02:01:48, BorgClown wrote...
Zombie nuts and berries, no thank you. Fishing is out of the question too. It's as bad a scenario as I feared. Nice!
On 2009-07-23 at 09:33:21, Thelevellers wrote...
Damn. that IS a hardcore scenario - you couldn't even go hunting!
On 2009-07-24 at 01:15:56, BorgClown wrote...
Oh wow, imagine a zombie tree. The other zombies would make fun of the tree zombies, as dangerous as wood planks.
On 2009-08-17 at 04:07:33, BorgClown wrote...
My dream was specially though because the critters became zombies too. If only humans can spread the infection a castle and a stock of sharp and sturdy tools would make an excellent stronghold. And if animals are not infectious, hunting would be a possibility.