OpinionNot much separates The Long Now Foundation (www.longnow.org) from a religion.
      – George, 2008-12-17 at 09:16:38   (12 comments)

On 2008-12-17 at 11:05:46, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's more of a cult than a religion, although of course a religion is just a well-established cult. At least their ideas are intended to be positive and not completely insane.
On 2008-12-17 at 18:51:16, BorgClown wrote...
The clock is an interesting project though. I'd really like it to be made.
On 2008-12-17 at 19:32:47, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I did watch some of the TED talk on this subject recently, but it got very boring and I didn't finish it... http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/stewart_brand_on_the_long_now.html
On 2008-12-18 at 06:26:25, BorgClown wrote...
I'm not even opening the video, if you say it's boring it must be so. How long can it take to explain such foundations and propositions?
On 2008-12-18 at 10:31:06, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's actually about the design of the clock, and the lengths they've gone to to find a suitable location, etc. Since the clock must work for such a ridiculously long time, they had to pick a remote location and the guy tells the stories of the adventures they had getting there and exploring the place.
On 2008-12-18 at 18:10:44, BorgClown wrote...
Boy, it sounds boring. Travel anecdotes have nothing to do with durable clocks. In Mexico one self-claimed "paranormal detective", Carlos Trejo, traveled a lot in search of stories. His videos consisted of five minutes of gibberish about travel anecdotes and local rumors, and the punchline was always a 1 second blurry shape who supposedly made the trip worth. Fortunately his five minutes of fame are over, but that craze left me wary of people who use anecdotes as a filler in place of real content.
On 2008-12-19 at 07:04:57, George wrote...
I listened to a four part talk given to the 'foundation' by Brian Eno (he was one of the founders, and came up with the 'long now' name) and thought it was pretty interesting. Haven't heard the one about the clock though. Either way, Eno is a genius imho for other stuff he's done.
On 2008-12-19 at 20:03:47, BorgClown wrote...
[...]a clock that ticks once a year. The century hand advances once every one hundred years, and the cuckoo comes out on the millennium. I want the cuckoo to come out every millennium for the next 10,000 years. Taken from here: http://longnow.org/projects/clock/ It blows my mind to think about such machine.
On 2008-12-19 at 20:04:51, BorgClown wrote...
The paper was published in 1995, so there's no cuckoo for you until year 3,000.
On 2008-12-19 at 20:05:48, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Perhaps you should watch the conference video after all... at least the beginning of it is about the idea behind the clock.
On 2008-12-19 at 20:12:45, BorgClown wrote...
Watch boring video, alright!
On 2008-12-19 at 20:13:14, BorgClown wrote...
If I fall asleep, I need the timeout anyway =P