Special interestSoapBoxxer has been taken down. The archive of opinions, comments and users will be posted here later.
      – Lee J Haywood, 2008-11-12 at 14:14:59   (88 comments)

On 2008-11-12 at 14:16:39, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Thanks for that... we can all get on with stumbling around the Internet again now.
On 2008-11-12 at 16:52:57, BorgClown wrote...
Hermetic to the end, the people who hide behind K&K basically shared a noise-to-content graphic and said goodbye. I guess that's better than nothing.
On 2008-11-12 at 17:17:22, BorgClown wrote...
Mmmh, nevertheless, it feels nice to have a proper ending to SB. It would have sucked if they just let it expire.
On 2008-11-12 at 18:05:14, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's strange to not have the site to go to, but at least we might get to bed on time now.
On 2008-11-12 at 18:12:17, BorgClown wrote...
DNr will have a few interesting visitors meanwhile, as everybody fills the void of SB their way.
On 2008-11-12 at 18:13:34, BorgClown wrote...
I'm looking forward to adapt the archive for use as an eBook in my PDA. Hundreds of hours of nonsense for when I become bored.
On 2008-11-12 at 18:25:09, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I ought to have thought about doing a SoapBoxxer skin a bit earlier... it's a bit late now. No-one would have moved back then anyway, but they might at this point. But I haven't done it, so it's only theoretical...
On 2008-11-12 at 19:37:50, BorgClown wrote...
Please don't think about a SodaHead skin neither.
On 2008-11-12 at 19:42:29, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I've never logged on there, and don't plan to. So I don't / won't know what such a skin would look like.
On 2008-11-12 at 19:52:06, BorgClown wrote...
You don't have to logon to see how it looks like without participating. Anyway, I'm also refraining from going there as long as DNr exists. I can't see myself attending two opinion sites simultaneously again.
On 2008-11-12 at 19:53:36, Pdxnick wrote...
i really don't like the SH crowd it's to hit and miss with the people there. people at SB were mostly genuinely honest/interesting people..
On 2008-11-12 at 20:00:10, BorgClown wrote...
The major SH complaint I've heard is the huge number of close-minded retards who just go there to hear their opinions validates, although Beeba said it's not that bad after a while, so there must be some interesting people too.
On 2008-11-12 at 20:00:25, BorgClown wrote...
*validated
On 2008-11-12 at 20:42:17, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It would be better to have the old people here instead of mixed in with all the others... We managed to keep SoapBoxxer as a fairly intelligent site, although it was just general chit-chat most of the time.
On 2008-11-12 at 20:59:27, BorgClown wrote...
I don't buy the SB experiment explanation, unless it was a just-for-kicks amateur experiment. If SB had the tools we have in DNr, I'm sure it would have grown steadily. It was clearly neglected.
On 2008-11-12 at 21:00:38, BorgClown wrote...
I specially like the topic marking (fortunately, so far rarely used) and the 5-star rating thingamajig.
On 2008-11-12 at 21:01:31, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It certainly doesn't make sense to abandon the site from the start and then claim that it failed for other reasons. There's a considerable amount of arrogance in creating a community only to pull the plug later.
On 2008-11-12 at 21:04:07, Lee J Haywood wrote...
It's interesting that they think knocking up a crappy, bug-ridden site in 2 days is something to be proud of.
On 2008-11-12 at 21:45:08, RudystillRules wrote...
:(
On 2008-11-13 at 04:08:03, Mogis wrote...
With that development speed, it would take them literally 1.2 seconds to fix that following exploit ;)
On 2008-11-13 at 05:32:57, Mattslc wrote...
hmmm hi all:) What is SH?
On 2008-11-13 at 05:48:04, Mogis wrote...
Hey mattslc! Good to see you after the collapse :) sh = sodahead
On 2008-11-13 at 05:53:50, Mattslc wrote...
hiya mogis! I got super busy with work/school so I disappeared for a while. I can't believe how much discussionator has progressed since I saw it last. Did a Soapboxxer alumni create sodahead?
On 2008-11-13 at 06:01:36, Mogis wrote...
I doubt anyone from SB was involved. Some ex myspace vp got a shitload of money to build it.
On 2008-11-13 at 06:21:20, BorgClown wrote...
@Mattslc: So you went back to school, I wondered if you had pursued your plans. Kudos!
On 2008-11-13 at 06:25:15, Mattslc wrote...
@Borg. yeah. I changed my schedule to a 3pm to 11pm shift and go to school from 9am to 1 pm everyday. I'm pretty busy most of the time but I feel a lot better about myself. Pursuing interests and all. How is the writing thing going?
On 2008-11-13 at 06:29:37, BorgClown wrote...
Ah, it's hard work. Training for being a good basketball or football player means daily work, writing is no different. I had a little space on a small magazine of a friend, but the magazine didn't take off. Bad timing I guess, with the global depression. I try to keep writing daily though, but I also need to keep on doing consulting since it I haven't got a stable job. Not the best times, but not that bad either. just meh.
On 2008-11-13 at 06:30:53, BorgClown wrote...
I kinda wished you showed by on these last days on SB. I'm glad you appeared here.
On 2008-11-13 at 06:42:54, Mogis wrote...
I wonder how SB content will be posted .. ?
On 2008-11-13 at 06:53:41, Mattslc wrote...
Maybe you should start a blog and maybe write about tech stuff, combine two of your passions. Do you write in Spanish or English? I didn't hear about Soapboxxers demise until I read my email on the 11th. I logged on last night and shot the shit with ethan a little bit, then when I woke up it was gone. I'm definitely sad to see it go, it was an interesting community.
On 2008-11-13 at 06:58:36, Mogis wrote...
What are you studying at school, mattslc?
On 2008-11-13 at 07:05:29, Mattslc wrote...
@Mogis: Computer science is my declared major but i'm thinking about switching to Information Technology. CS is just a little too comprehensive for me right now given that I work 50+ hours a week.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:11:27, Mogis wrote...
Eeek. That's a lot of go, go, go! I codes on the interweb, but there's a lot that would seem kind of useless if I went to college for it...
On 2008-11-13 at 07:24:50, Mogis wrote...
You'd probably learn the right ways to think about things though. I'd just hate taking courses in languages that I wouldn't use, ya know ;)
On 2008-11-13 at 07:28:57, Mattslc wrote...
@Mogis: Yeah, Comp Sci is mostly just theory, you become a pretty good programmer though in the process of it all.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:32:28, BorgClown wrote...
@Mattslc: I started to write a blog, (everything I write is in Spanish, my English is not ready for prose). Didn't like it, I decided to prepare for a few of next year's literary contests. It's like learning computers all over again because I have no humanistic formation, nevertheless, I can feel I'm making progress.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:36:02, BorgClown wrote...
@Mogis: I'm with Matt, learning "useless" languages is nice because they still are out there. Besides, you learn different programming philosophies and best practices, according to each language. that should help you lots with code optimization, something that unfortunately isn't taught at most schools.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:36:35, Mogis wrote...
Lots of blogs out there are written way worse than the way you chat online.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:38:17, Mogis wrote...
Yeah, I could learn a lot from those kind of classes.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:39:15, Mattslc wrote...
Next semester i'm taking an assembly language class. I'm excited!
On 2008-11-13 at 07:41:56, BorgClown wrote...
@Mogis: Ah, but why bother myself with the burden of a foreign language when I have enough troubles learning the craft? Maybe in a few years I'd venture to write in English.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:42:21, Mogis wrote...
oooo! that would awesome :) I'd be into learning some assembly. On a side note, one of friends found some ruby libraries to atmel chips. He made this pong game where you control you guy by moving you hand closer or further from an ir sensor. It'd be fun to do that kind of shit.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:43:48, BorgClown wrote...
@Mattslc: LOL, that reminded me of a 3 1/4" diskette formatting program me and my mates did when we were just learning assembler. The fucker never worked well, it always messed the diskette. Of course we just renamed it to "Disk destroyer".
On 2008-11-13 at 07:44:06, Mogis wrote...
@BorgClown Well by then, you'd be excellent, I'd expect.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:44:57, BorgClown wrote...
@Mogis: On ruby nonetheless. Reminded me of an embedded program made, IIRC, in PHP.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:45:31, BorgClown wrote...
@BorgClown: I'd pray for that if I were religious. It's a long way for me yet.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:45:38, Mogis wrote...
@BorgClown nice! You should release it on some software site and hype it up.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:45:41, BorgClown wrote...
Shit, I replied to myself...
On 2008-11-13 at 07:46:31, Mattslc wrote...
@BorgClown: It's cool, sometimes I talk to myself too.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:46:34, BorgClown wrote...
"Disk Destroyer - If you sell your PC, don't format its hard disk, destroy it!"
On 2008-11-13 at 07:47:17, Mattslc wrote...
Wow the javascript is much more robust on here than I remember in the beta version
On 2008-11-13 at 07:47:37, Mogis wrote...
@BorgClown: hell yeah! Have its icon be Godzilla..
On 2008-11-13 at 07:49:08, Mogis wrote...
@Mattslc: Yeah lots of great javascript really. Auto refresh. and notice if you happened to click the refresh button it shows back up after a few seconds.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:49:18, BorgClown wrote...
@Mogis: Cool, like this one: http://www.mozilla.com/img/tignish/template/footer-logo.png
On 2008-11-13 at 07:51:39, Mogis wrote...
Mozilla :) And put flames and collapsing buildings behind him.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:51:42, BorgClown wrote...
@Mattslc: Lee really listened to the feedback. The beta version constantly resized the panels, but this version looks solid.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:53:54, Mattslc wrote...
it's too bad more SB alumni don't hang out here. Maybe if we kick it old school they will eventually migrate over here.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:54:07, BorgClown wrote...
RAAAR!
On 2008-11-13 at 07:55:22, BorgClown wrote...
That's true. If you want to catch the bulk of SB veterans, you gotta go to SodaHead. Korinthian made a SoapBoxxers-only private group, so it can be really alike.
On 2008-11-13 at 07:56:32, Mattslc wrote...
too many ads, I like this better
On 2008-11-13 at 07:58:26, Mogis wrote...
OOOOh that's pretty good! Disk Destroyer!!!
On 2008-11-13 at 08:01:50, BorgClown wrote...
@Mattslc: I'm staying here because Lee was encouraged to create DNr by disillusioned SBers, included myself. It wouldn't be fair to abandon it for SH, even if I miss the folks there. In a sense it's cool, we infected SB like a virus, killed and spawned to two new sites. We'll ultimatelly kill them and expand to four.
On 2008-11-13 at 08:03:41, BorgClown wrote...
@Mogis: I feel strongly compelled to constantly roar!
On 2008-11-13 at 08:06:28, Mogis wrote...
With good reason! If you have razor sharp teeth, you have to, I think.
On 2008-11-15 at 19:06:38, Lee J Haywood wrote...
http://discussionator.com/SoapBoxxer.zip
On 2008-11-16 at 04:59:30, Jaguarior wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: Thank you, Lee. Very much. That stuff means a lot to many.
On 2008-11-16 at 10:39:20, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Although some of the Unicode appears to be corrupt, those comments did not display correctly on the original site either due to poor copying/pasting - e.g. VintageApril in opinion 7.
On 2008-11-17 at 17:42:36, Baslisks wrote...
@BorgClown: about your prose. if you try writing in another language you might have an insight in the language you want to be in. Discover subtleties that exist in another mind.
On 2008-11-17 at 21:35:49, BorgClown wrote...
@Baslisks: Thanks for the advice, Baslisks. I love chatting in English, because that gives you access to many cultures besides USA. But my serious writing language will be Spanish. If I give birth to something worth, I'm sure I could get a professional translator to properly work it.
On 2008-11-17 at 22:03:26, BorgClown wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: Already downloading the SB archive. 32MB, prepare for a obscene bandwidth bill this month.
On 2008-11-17 at 22:04:43, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I'm not worried - I've only got 7 users. (-:
On 2008-11-17 at 22:07:39, BorgClown wrote...
Yet.
On 2008-11-17 at 22:30:22, BorgClown wrote...
Just out of curiosity I made a 7zip out of it. It gets to 17MB, didn't know ZIPs were so inefficient with text.
On 2008-11-17 at 22:39:58, Lee J Haywood wrote...
17MB is good - tar jcf gives 20MB but that's with a lot of empty spaces in the tar headers.
On 2008-11-17 at 22:40:59, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Of course it'd all be smaller still if I hadn't added all those dumb/pointless carriage returns to the files for MS Windows users.
On 2008-11-18 at 01:36:57, Baslisks wrote...
@BorgClown: meh, it's why all the good jazz musicians practice beethoven and played parker. why john coltrane played freer then anything ever.
On 2008-11-18 at 06:59:33, BorgClown wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: Nice work overall, it's pretty accessible for reprocessing. Will you upload it to DNr? I wish you did, and I wish you didn't.
On 2008-11-18 at 07:01:14, BorgClown wrote...
@Baslisks: I'll consider that, Baslisks. If I had someone to help me correct my horrible mistakes in English would make that an easy decision, but I have not.
On 2008-11-18 at 08:50:28, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I doubt it. It would only be searchable if Google indexed it, but since it's essentially static I wouldn't want Google indexing it here on a regular basis... Perhaps I could just have the text of the largest opinions linked for indexing, and ignore all the short, uninteresting ones.
On 2008-12-13 at 04:30:52, BorgClown wrote...
I don't know since when, but the blog of SoapBoxxer has changed to this URL: http://www.partselect.com/Blog/archive/2008/12/09/soapboxxer.com-the-end-to-an-experiment-in-social-networking.aspx So it's a safe bet to assume that they were honest when they said "Now, we’re an ecommerce company, and so we constantly work to improve the site and the interaction rates of our customers. Unfortunately, appliance parts aren’t always something that grab’s the user’s attention." So it's a LOL and a R.I.P.
On 2008-12-13 at 09:35:10, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Presumably since 9 December. Given that they never felt any need to actually do any work on the site, it still doesn't make sense that they couldn't leave it to itself - unless they were running out of database space or some such. But they're right that it would never have made much money.
On 2008-12-13 at 22:34:46, BorgClown wrote...
At least we got to know who they were.
On 2009-03-30 at 03:02:32, Anarchir wrote...
I miss Soapboxxer.... ;_: I shed a tear for our former glory.
On 2009-03-30 at 04:54:53, Baslisks wrote...
we all do.
On 2009-03-30 at 05:53:13, BorgClown wrote...
@Anarchir: Same here, seeing you here brings back memories. I wish people the people from SB would have joined us here, It's amazing how we managed to thrive there with such limited tools. Did you go to SodaHead when SB died? How's the world there?
On 2009-03-30 at 07:28:53, Thelevellers wrote...
I miss it too :-( Even though it drove me out with it's random not letting me post or view topics... I think I prefer this layout myself, so I'm at a bit of a loss as to why more of the old crew didn't stick it out here... :( I think I may avoid SH on principle! Heh, and one opinion site at a time is surely enough!
On 2009-04-01 at 06:46:02, BorgClown wrote...
Same here, too much opinion is bad for your helth.
On 2009-04-01 at 06:46:28, BorgClown wrote...
mkes you wirte fnuny