OpinionThere aren't enough pop songs that tell an interesting story, rather than just having a theme.
      – Lee J Haywood, 2008-09-12 at 15:11:17   (33 comments)

On 2008-09-12 at 15:17:37, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I can only think of 3 songs with stories, rather than just a verse/chorus structure. There's Morcheeba's Women lose weight <recommended - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_jGgZ35W5s>, Gas Huffer's Ghost in the lighthouse and (at a stretch) Avril Lavigne's Sk8er boi.
On 2008-09-12 at 15:29:17, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
"Fast Car" Tracy Chapman?
On 2008-09-12 at 15:33:06, Lee J Haywood wrote...
That seems to be another song about a situation, like most - I'm not sure that it has any conclusion, as a story would.
On 2008-09-12 at 15:41:46, BorgClown wrote...
I'd say that most musicians and song writers don't effort enough. Songs are too repetitive these days. They start to look like musical mantras.
On 2008-09-12 at 15:42:41, BorgClown wrote...
Also, 99% of them are about love relations. Completely cliché.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:16:27, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
I guess it depends on how broadly you define pop.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:20:53, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I had to put pop in there otherwise you'd be able to point out some really obscure Country and Western songs. (-: I think that for certain songs, like the ones I listed, the story jumps right out at you even if you don't have the time to read the lyrics. For most songs, you just end up singing along to the chorus and the verses don't add that much... or if they do, they still don't tell a story.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:30:33, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
OK, browsing through my iTunes library, here's what I came up with: "Painters" by Jewel, almost any Ben Folds song, "The Way" by Fastball, "Annie" by Vanessa Carlton, "Last Night" by Motion City Soundtrack, and most Something Corporate songs. There should definitely be more than that.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:38:59, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Okay, I've just listened to Painters and read the lyrics... it's not really quite what I'm talking about. It's sort of a story, but it's more of a theme about lovers and paintings without much of a progression or point. It's tough because you end up liking certain songs for personal reasons, and see stories in them that relate to your own life/beliefs, but I'm talking more about songs with a twist or with a preposition, action and conclusion.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:40:58, BorgClown wrote...
"lovers and paintings" - Fuck'em, too many love songs in the world!
On 2008-09-12 at 16:42:00, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Has anyone listened to Women lose weight yet? That's a story right there. (-:
On 2008-09-12 at 16:45:50, BorgClown wrote...
Haven't heard it, but found the lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morcheeba/women+lose+weight_20095972.html
On 2008-09-12 at 16:46:15, Lee J Haywood wrote...
@BorgClown: It's on YouTube, like everything, in comment #1.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:58:33, RudystillRules wrote...
Radiohead. Although this depends on your definition of Pop.
On 2008-09-12 at 16:59:29, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Radiohead isn't a song.
On 2008-09-12 at 17:00:51, BorgClown wrote...
@Lee J Haywood: Give rudy some slack, he just reads six lines of text.
On 2008-09-12 at 17:02:08, Scarletxstarlet wrote...
@RudystillRules: Radiohead's not pop, IMO.
On 2008-09-12 at 17:05:08, RudystillRules wrote...
Does Stan count?
On 2008-09-12 at 17:07:06, RudystillRules wrote...
Icky Thump?
On 2008-09-12 at 17:09:38, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Stan is a good example of a story, although it's more speaking than singing I think.
On 2008-10-12 at 21:31:32, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Here's another one - Camouflage by Stan Ridgway... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAI3jfDN9o8 (5 mins)
On 2008-10-13 at 00:41:49, BorgClown wrote...
Oh, wow, that song suxx. I wonder why it was a hit back in the 80s. Original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFYxCIr-Byo
On 2008-10-13 at 00:48:02, BorgClown wrote...
I mean, camouflage? It's like, hello, I program mainframes, my name is "CPU".
On 2008-10-13 at 09:05:49, Lee J Haywood wrote...
Oops, that was the link I meant to post - copy and paste failure. I think everyone was a lot younger when that song came out - I know I liked it. (-:
On 2008-10-13 at 09:12:35, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I thought I'd already posted Hazard by Richard Marx - I thought of it a while ago, and it used to play on the radio a lot when I was at university. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJffiGHz7M (4 min 43 sec)
On 2008-10-13 at 14:12:52, BorgClown wrote...
Oh wow, now that's a good song, simple lyrics but interesting content. Stupid Mary, dying at an inappropriate time. Suicide or murder? Dun dun
On 2008-10-13 at 14:22:37, BorgClown wrote...
I have never seen the video before, the song is stronger this way. It prompted me to look up the song at songfacts.com, interesting reading.
On 2008-10-13 at 15:31:16, Lee J Haywood wrote...
I hadn't given as much thought to who the killer was as all these other people have done - after all, it's pretty open-ended. Listening to it again, I can see why it's so good - it's a very sad song, and it's very easy to put yourself in the place of the accused.
On 2008-10-13 at 17:45:44, BorgClown wrote...
I bet it was that sleazy sheriff, it's a perfect victimization of the defenseless protagonist. Ah, it was good to be a teen, all the world was against you...
On 2009-05-27 at 02:43:10, Thelevellers wrote...
I would definitely agree with this. Especially sat here listening to Carolina Drama by The Raconteurs - taking their name entirely literally, it's a masterpiece of story telling, might count as pop?
On 2009-05-27 at 03:29:10, BorgClown wrote...
I love living in this decade, music is sooo accessible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzDmUPficI Record companies, stop whining and evolve.
On 2009-05-27 at 03:32:34, BorgClown wrote...
When I was in school, music was shared on cassette tapes. If you couldn't afford the music, it was not rare for one to tape it directly from the radio.
On 2009-05-27 at 10:37:47, Thelevellers wrote...
Awesome, thatnks for the link borg! Takes me back to last summer - saw them live at the Eden project. Awesome gig... :D