SurveyWhen you don't pay on time, your telephone company is allowed to fully charge you even if your service is down for not paying
      – BorgClown, 2008-09-11 at 04:09:51   (18 comments)

On 2008-09-11 at 04:11:34, BorgClown wrote...
That pisses me off, because they're not giving you any kind of service, yet they get to charge the full bill. If you delay two months, for example, you get charged the full two months even if you weren't able to use the service. I'm wondering id this practice is common over the world, or just here.
On 2008-09-11 at 04:12:03, BorgClown wrote...
*if this practice, damn fat fingers
On 2008-09-11 at 04:21:17, Beeba wrote...
when you say "not able to use the service" do you mean due to the service being unavailable or just being unable to use the service you have for personal reasons?
On 2008-09-11 at 04:30:11, BorgClown wrote...
@Beeba: I mean the company suspending your service for not paying on time.
On 2008-09-11 at 05:27:19, Beeba wrote...
well that's just fucked up then. not that it surprises me. the telecoms are some of the most wretched corporations out there, just a couple steps below the oil corporations.
On 2008-09-11 at 05:27:43, Beeba wrote...
or should i say above.
On 2008-09-11 at 05:34:37, BorgClown wrote...
@Beeba: Depends on the sorting.
On 2008-09-11 at 05:58:46, Beeba wrote...
@BorgClown: that is a topic i could seriously rant on though. of course AT&T was split up for monopolizing back in the 80s only to buy them back and monopolize again as at&t (no CAPS this time) in this grand new age where corporations can do whatever they please. they were also given state funding to build a fiber-optic cable network to replace the outdated phone lines and provide lightning fast internet and plenty of bandwidth for all, but then they decided not to and apparently were not held accountable for that either. profit > progress. so now we're going to see bandwidth limits imposed on all our internet services and everything's going to slow down until people can't take it anymore, then maybe they will finally build the fiber optic network. or maybe they'll just charge us the same prices for dial-up speeds.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:08:29, BorgClown wrote...
@Beeba: That sucks. Here in the 90s, Telmex was the only state-owned telephone company. It was privatized and sold very cheap to Carlos Slim, who also spun off the biggest cellular company, Telcel. That guy has a practical monopoly, the other companies are ridiculously dwarfed relatively. He practically sets the price and terms of telephone, cellular and internet access, and the other companies follow suit because they don't want to be bought or squashed down. The deal we get is some of the most expensive communications in the Americas, for example, we get 1Mbps downstream and 256Kbps upstream for about $50 USD a month. Everything higher is considered business class and consequently priced.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:10:20, BorgClown wrote...
The cheapest cellular plan is 100 minutes for $25 USD. Our local calls are cheap because they are charged by connection, not by time, but the long distance is more expensive than I'd like.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:13:21, BorgClown wrote...
If you want Internet connection by cell phone, they charge about $0.10 USD, per kilobyte. And text messages are charged by the piece. Sucks overall, specially knowing that other Hispanic countries get much better deals from the same companies. We're financing his expansion to Central and South America.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:14:16, Beeba wrote...
@BorgClown: it's all a scam. they are selling a service which is nearly impossible to objectively quantify in terms of dollar value, so they use that to their advantage and grossly over-inflate the charges for everything. they add fees to cover costs that don't even exist, just a bunch of bullshit to con people into paying more for air. why does a text message cost more than a phone call? phone calls transmit live audio, you can't tell me that is more costly to transmit than a few bits of text data?!
On 2008-09-11 at 06:14:59, Beeba wrote...
years back i had SBC internet and cingular wireless services. at&t ate both of them.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:15:13, Beeba wrote...
and by "years back" i mean like 2-3 years.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:19:44, BorgClown wrote...
@Beeba: Oh yeah, sometimes my cell phone picked up a Cingular network when I went shopping in USA. I think it doesn't anymore.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:22:21, Beeba wrote...
@BorgClown: yeah now it picks up at&t calls instead. =P
On 2008-09-11 at 06:25:28, BorgClown wrote...
And about the pricing, I'm with you. If a company to grows too fast, that means it's cheating or overcharging somewhere. I really don't know if they should be audited when the brute income gets too big, but the voracious greed of company owners can be very frustrating for us customers. They want big profits, and they want them fast.
On 2008-09-11 at 06:26:11, BorgClown wrote...
*If a company to grows too fast - Excuse my damn fat fingers